{"id":121222,"date":"2024-07-03T09:16:24","date_gmt":"2024-07-03T13:16:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/admin.hobbyfarms.com\/?p=121222"},"modified":"2025-04-02T14:32:34","modified_gmt":"2025-04-02T18:32:34","slug":"growing-good-podcast-81-robert-frew-juan-carlos-arango-permaculture-specialists","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.hobbyfarms.com\/growing-good-podcast-81-robert-frew-juan-carlos-arango-permaculture-specialists\/","title":{"rendered":"Growing Good Podcast #81: Robert Frew &#038; Juan Carlos Arango, permaculture specialists"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border: none;\" title=\"Libsyn Player\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/31996832\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/no\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/88AA3C\/\" width=\"100%\" height=\"90\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\">\ufeff<\/span><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\">\ufeff<\/span><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\">\ufeff<\/span><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\">\ufeff<\/span><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\">\ufeff<\/span><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\">\ufeff<\/span><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\"><\/span><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\"><\/span><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\"><\/span><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\"><\/span><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Robert and Juan Carlos practice permaculture and a culture of sharing at\u00a0Sobremesa\u00a0Farm, just outside Bloomington, Indiana. In this episode, Robert talks about taking the time to observe the land before jumping into farming and waiting one more year before putting any pressure on selling anything from the land. Juan Carlos points out that neither of them knew much about farming but came into this work through their interest in nature and wildlife and, eventually, the relationships they built at a Bioneers Conference. That permaculture mimics nature made it a natural fit for their land-management philosophy.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Hear about the steps they took to bring municipal water to a property that isn\u2019t suited for a well but didn\u2019t have a municipal-water meter. (Listeners: Most of us would have walked away from this property. You\u00a0have to\u00a0hear about their journey!) Robert also talks about how they collect and keep rainwater on the land, plus two springs that have come to the surface since they purchased the property.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Juan Carlos talks about the concept of \u201cvolunteers\u201d&#8211;particularly plant volunteers as a means to reduce dependence on off-farm seed resources. He also talks about the various animals they keep and the rolls each fills on the farm, plus some of the more untypical tropical crops they grow in greenhouses and the fields. You won\u2019t find soursop, bananas or\u00a0pittaya\u00a0growing too many other places in the Midwest!<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Hear, too, about their fellowship with Midwest Grains, the milpas they\u2019re experimenting with, and their interest in finding and learning from other small-scale grain growers in the region.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">From CSA to an on-farm market,\u00a0Sobremesa\u00a0Farm attempts to connect their customers with how their food is grown. Robert talks about getting grant money to expand production via mini production contracts for a local food pantry in 2023. He gets real about the growing pains for farms as small as theirs when engaging with grants.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Finally, Juan Carlos talks about their approach to educating their customers and school groups, as well as multicultural farming workshops they host on the farm. Hear, too, about the fertility methods they\u2019ve used to supercharge the soil organic matter on their farm.\u202f<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">If you\u2019re curious about the name\u00a0Sobremesa\u00a0Farm, listen to the very end to hear Juan Carlos\u2019s explanation of the Latin American concept of<\/span>\u00a0<span data-contrast=\"none\">sobremesa<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Note from the host:<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">One thing we did not get to talk about in this episode was\u00a0Sobremesa\u00a0Farm\u2019s feature during the 2023 Farm Aid benefit concert. 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